This page is inspired by how confused I was in college that every woman was super cute and adorable, and eventually you realize that you don’t just want to steal their fashion ideas…Granted, I didn’t really solidify my sexuality until I was in my late 20s. Frankly, I’ve been riding wave after wave of traumatic nonsense for years, so I spent most of college doing homework and having panic attacks. It was fun! Great time.
ANYWAY, Marin has realized some things. Some gay things. And if you’re wondering who she’s looking at, it’s all three of them, because Marin’s type is every lady.
So, yeah, focus on the happy things going on in the top half of this page, and shuffle the ominous feeling you get from those last two panels into the back of your mind for next week O_O.
I spent most of this morning, WAY TOO LONG, fighting with this page. I tried textures, I tried a dark background, I tried a light background, Photoshop crashed once in there…it was great. I defeated it, though. Part of the reason I leave the finishing touches for most pages until the morning I post them is because I like having fresh eyes. When I’ve been staring at the same page all day, I stop being able to see what’s not working clearly. At the end of the day, my goal is to be at least 80% happy with every page. I don’t aim for 100%, because this comic would never get finished, but I aim high. This has generally gotten me good results, and I can look back at pages I made 2.5 years ago and still be happy with them, and that’s what matters.
BTW, this week is my 2.5 year anniversary! I didn’t bother celebrating the 2 year anniversary because I was too depressed from the election. Also, the weather in February makes me even more depressed. But now it’s summer, and summer is different and sunny and good, so yay for 2.5 years! I’m going to keep going, and one day this beast will get published, and maybe one day someone will just offer to publish it for me so I don’t have to put in all that effort myself. That’d be neat.
Well, if I’ve learned anything from Twilight, those 3 girls are vampires. 😛 But yeah I can see those storm clouds coming from the parents miles away. Honestly, if I were worried about such things as school reputation as that counselor I’d at least try and transfer the student to a more accepting university and then at least tell the parents that part (the transfer nothing else) but I’m guessing times were different then given the mall portion is pretty much around our time frame that would put this portion sometime in the late 80’s early 90’s.
Also is the girl on the left supposed to be Marissa, because it certainly looks like her? Maybe a cousin?
Also our readers future knowledge says that the Black sheep is certainly going an odd route, sheep in wolves clothing hm.
That’s just a random girl, not Marisa, but she does sort of look like her. It was kind of intentional lol.
This portion of the story actually takes place more in the mid 2000s. Marin is currently 31 in the main timeline, and she’d be about 17 here.
The 3 random girls, looks “a little” like Aubrey, Charlene and Harvey, but the time frame and one of the skin tones is wrong.
….How old do you think Marin is?
It’s not that I didn’t know how old she was it’s more I didn’t know where that would be in relation to the timeline. Also I forget we’re past 2010 since between 2000 and 2010 kind of just disappeared in my mind for some reason, guess that’s what school does.
hey, I’m pretty sure 2000-2010 is little more than a dream and 2010-2017 is a blur. I’m always saying something happened like 5 years ago when it actually happened 15 years ago.
oooooooooooof
yay self-discovery, but boooo this counselor handling that in the woRST WAY D:
Do counselors not have to follow the whole doctor patient confidentiality thing?
Kind of? I’ve looked it up, and it seems like if you’re at a religious institution, you’re taking a big risk disclosing anything related to your sexuality. Counselors at a school level can break confidentiality if they believe you’re at risk of self harm, from what I’ve read, and in terms of this school, he’s likely more of a clergy person than a legit counselor. And religious schools can make their own rules for a lot of things as private institutions, so Liberty University, for instance, bans men and women spending time alone together and also bans sex that’s not heterosexual. They also have a curfew and a dress code, so it’s pretty intense.
Yeah, religious schools play by their own rules. I was suspended from one in my freshman year for breaking the code of conduct by “spending late evenings and early mornings” with a boy. Like, what? We stayed the night. He didn’t just get up and leave there in the middle then come back near dawn. *shakes head* But yeah. When I was called in to the counselors because our friend snitche– erm I mean, expressed concern for our well being, they disclosed EVERYTHING I told them to my parents. Granted, they did have to send an official letter as to why they were kicking me out, but still. Dick move. TOTALLY convinced me they “only had my spiritual well being at heart” *eye roll*
Pretty crummy clergyperson, then. I mean, clergy are supposed to abide by the same confidentiality rules as other folks.
Which is not to say schools with an axe to grind wouldn’t do that… It’s why I’m not a fan of religious schools for my kids, event though I’m religious. Nobody’s gonna tell my kids what to believe but me, their mom, and the folks my priest trusts to teach Sunday school.
Banning men and women being alone together and banning non heterosexual sex sounds like a recipe for students claiming they weren’t breaking the rules after being caught having straight people orgies.
Not school councilors they aren’t the same as psychiatrists or medical counselors. Also given the nature of the school it’s likely even if it was someone bound to confidentiality they probably had Marin sign release forms so that her parents could be told.
Counselors generally follow them, though the institution can set up special rules such as contacting the parents if the counselor thinks the student is in serious trouble. This generally applies to serious stuff like suicide, disorders severely disrupting their studies/life, etc., the same way the student health center would call the parents if the kid had something life-threatening and they sent the student to the hospital for treatment. However, this school probably classified anything going against the Bible as a Serious Issue the parents should know about.
Counselors, in general, are NOT medical practitioners and I will assume he is not a priest. Therefore they are not legally obligated to keep anything a secret if they deem you are either a danger to yourself or others. They also cannot plead confidentiality in court, in general.
Priests and psychologists are legally obligated to tell the authorities if they believe you pose immediate danger to yourself or others. Or if you tell them that you’ve harmed a child or an elderly person in your care.
In theory counsellors do, but if you put the pressure on them, you’ll find they have a whole bunch of “non-public” ethical rules which “if they consider a matter of personal imminent danger” (eg suicide, murder, The Gay ™) then they can tell anyone and everyone they want; moreso the ethics is of course written to say they _must_ tell people and thus gives the counsellor perfectly legal and moral absolution in the matter of completely disregarding the actually important parts of your privacy.
And her family was surprisingly both understanding and supportive of her. Right. right…
In another world and a much better scenario 🙂
LMAO! The delivery is perfect, especially the facial expression in the center panel with the eyes and the slight blush. Best page of the entire series so far.
Thank you! To be fair, this is also how I look at women half the time. Slack-jawed and mute!
Wait. Those girls are vampires, right? I mean, we have werewolves and witches already, this could be set in the Twilight-verse! Only a lot better, obviously.
Ah. So that’s why no one visited her in the hospital. If I know that type of family correctly, they won’t be supportive… and when she gets the brain tumor, they might very well say it’s what she deserved for ‘wanting to be gay’.
They can be my secret vampires :).
And you’ve hit the unfortunate nail on the head in regards to Marin’s hospital stay 🙁
The colors of this page are really nice. I love how the top half is cute and colorful but you can really feel the dark clouds coming on the bottom half. Awesome job!
Thank you! I fought with this page long and hard, because I wanted the happy -> ominous feel, but couldn’t get it to work most of the morning 😀
Did Marin just get hit by a wave of gay so hard it made her hair get floofier?
Oh my gawd, if that were a thing, it would explain soooo much about me 😛
OOOHHH, I LOVE floofy hair! My hair is the “gets long and can braid into a tow rope for a destroyer” type. =P
LOL!
Yesssssssssss
I’ve been in this website all night reading the comic, and the comments, and the things you write after publishing a page… It’s interesting to see 2.5 years of advance in just some hours.
I have to say that I’m loving this story so far. I’ve read some webcomics trying to kill my spare time but I always felt the pacing was too rushed (with both character growth and plot) so I kind of dropped them, but here things feel natural. And it’s good to see diversity in the characters for once! Talking about characters, I really want to see what’s next for Aubrey, Harvey and the others, I hope we get there soon but for now I’ll enjoy the backstory (with lots of gay, just how we all like!) and drama.
And about this page… I barely know things about art but I have to say that I like how you draw hair (my hair is bad, I’m jealous of everyone in this comic) and the colors in the first three panels and the expression of Marin are very cute (and I love fluffy hair). The last two are depressing but I guess that’s how is supposed to be. It makes me sad and very nervous that there are therapists that are abusive and manipulative towards their patients.
If something of what I wrote seems weird is probably because my native language is spanish and all the english I know is from years of video games and movies, so, sorry about that 🙂 Since I haven’t entered to school yet maybe I can encourage myself to do a translation with your permission, we’ll see!
That’s awesome! I’m glad you liked it :D. And I hope you still got some sleep! I aim for a natural storytelling pace, because it’s one of the things that ruins a story the fastest for me, even though in webcomic time…it feels like years to get to anything significant. But that’s okay!
I admit that my hair is also quite sad. I have thin, fine hair that does nothing, so I think this comic is my outlet for the hair I wish I had lol
Your English is better than half the people I know who speak it natively, so you’re doing great! If you want to translate it, that’s fine by me! Just keep me posted 🙂
Happy comic unbirthday!!
It’s “Merry” Comic Unbirthday
I approve of all unbirthdays 😀
Why do I get the sinking feeling that a short stint at “conversion” camp is coming to “straighten” her out?
I don’t know if I could be that cruel 🙂
Thank you Mrs Lenore, for giving me hope about that.
Happy 2.5th anniversary. That’s solid. Thoroughly enjoyed following this so far.
Thank you! I’m glad you’re digging it so far 😀
The ladies she’s looking at look like younger versions of Aubrey, Mal, and… whoever’s narrating the story. Intentional?
Lol, more that I only know how to draw one set of ladies
You are up at #6 for the moment, you need 50 more votes to hit 5
Neat! Hey, just that I’ve made it up past 10 for once is a really cool thing!
Any one else feel the need to play “Kick the”Counselor”?
Yup. Even though I don’t support gay marriage, I still think the counselor shouldn’t have called her parents. It’s supposed to be confidential between the counselor and person; what’s said in the room stays in the room.
I mean, I’d like to get gay married one day. It’s kind of a separate issue from the counselor being a dick.
“Kick”. Yes. That’s precisely what I was thinking. Yup.
*Hides chainsaw, garbage bags, maps of New Mexico desert.*
I was thinking just firing him… out of a catapult… into the sun…
Well I admit I was thinking of South Park:
Me: Kick the Counselor!
Counselor: don’t kick the councelor
Me: Kick the Counselor! *Boots him into outer space Team Rocket Style*
That’s the first thing that came to my mind.
If my sister were reading this webcomic, she would be squealing “Cuties!” right about now. Hopefully, this comic doesn’t have the lesbian-couples-die-tragically trope that is far too common.
I can absolutely assure you, I plan to kill no lesbians! I hate that trope.
anti sexism strike inbound/honest argument.
wouldn’t NOT killing someone bcs of sexual orientation be sexist?
What’ she it like to feel that kind of attraction? I can’t say I’ve felt it, ever. It still baffles me that people WANT this kind of relationship, despite me understanding why. Does that make sense? I mean, I’m aro-ace, so I don’t feel any attraction to anyone, not even as friends. Does that make me a sociopath?
Sounds more like being asexual.
Yep, it sounds just like normal asexuality to me!
Yeah, being aro-ace doesn’t make you a sociopath. That said, it’s kind of like explaining the color blue to someone blind since birth. I can make an analogy, though, and hope it helps understanding:
Have you ever just finished a big meal, been completely full, and then encountered some utterly mouth-watering dessert that was just to your tastes? That’s what general ‘attraction’ is like–it isn’t coming from an underlying need for sustenance, it’s entirely about suddenly being presented with something that will trigger the dopamine and other pleasure-drugs running around in your brainpan.
I’m aro ace too (kind of questioning tho) and i understand how you feel. However, I do feel platonic attraction, and i don’t get how people are always like “omg i really want a relationship with this person, want to be with them, blah blah blah” lol. I think Freemage’s analogy is probably the best way to explain it, but i honestly have no idea. Sorry for my rambling, i just wanted to share my thoughts ^_^;
It’s been a while!
Just wanted to drop in and say that I’m still loving your comic. I like how fleshed out you’re making your characters.
Awesome! Thank you! I’m just happy that anyone comes back 😀
I was very angry at the counselor and then I read some of the comments and was like, “right, religious school, counselor is probably more clergy than psychologist/psychiatrist and therefore there’s not REALLY any confidentiality there.” and I’m still mad but it does make sense in terms of that’s what he’d do.
ALSO!! The “OH NO, THEY’RE CUTE!!!” face is so relatable, I HAD THAT MOMENT IN COLLEGE.
And lost a friend over it. I understand some of Marin’s feelings here on a visceral level.
Confidentiality still violated. It’s inherent in the term “Counselor.” Likely they are legally covered, but ethically, it’s still BS. More importantly, trust violated, big time. I don’t see Marin going to that “counselor” ever again.
She might not have an opportunity to!
Might make it hard to trust any “counselor” going forward. Breach of trust like that can leave lasting issues. More than that, if she mentions it to anyone on campus, it could cause other students to avoid talking to that (or any) counselor, possibly leading to other issues getting out of hand.
I am a heterosexual white male. But it doesn’t matter to me what someone’s gender identity or sexual orientation is. I can still call them a friend. It doesn’t have any harmful effect on me, so why should my preferences be imposed upon them?
I just want them to be happy.
That is the best way to think about it!
As long as they aren’t throwing it in everyone’s faces constantly…
I mean, a person being gay doesn’t effect anyone but the people they hang out with and date, so why would it matter if they’re obvious about it? How does it hurt anyone?
As in to the point of annoying everyone with it… I know a couple people who do that.
Okay, but I know a lot of people who are annoying and it has nothing to do with being gay. Let people be whoever they are, and don’t be around them if you find them annoying.
My instinctive reaction to comments of that sort is “then quit throwing your heterosexuality in people’s faces”. That is, no holding hands with a significant other in public. No using terms of endearment for a significant other in public. No displaying photographs of your significant other. No acknowledgement of relationships whatsoever.
That’s what you’re asking of people in same-sex relationships, right?
Happy two-and-a-halfth-iversary!
(Insert a few paragraphs of grumbling at the counselor here)
Thank you! And I agree with your grumbling 🙂
It’s too bad her parents are the fundamentalist Christian conservative type and not just the conservative conservative type, their whole “quiverfull” reproductive strategy seems like it could really benefit from the child care hypothesis. (i.e. a pair of childless aunts could really help with the 50 odd grandchildren they seem to be hoping for)
Technically, the older siblings tend to raise the younger siblings anyway, so by the time Marin’s out of the house, a new sibling is old enough to tend to everyone. And eventually mom can’t have kids anymore, anyway. But gay aunts would be hella helpful.
It’s refreshing that the full-figured gal also gets to be sparkley-cute, and, Shawn: please enjoy your 2.5th anniversary. I’d buy you a drink, but I’d have to bring the senior woman with dementia that I look after, and she can be kind of a party pooper. Thank gods I can sometimes read web comics while looking after her.
I always think it’s a shame that “hot girl moments” are usually tall, skinny blonde women. Variety, damn it!
I will enjoy my anniversary, thank you! And I suppose it’s better to care for a party pooper than a hell raiser O_O
I got to admit, I always feel a morbid fascination with stuff like this. Both of my parents are fundamentalist pastors, young earth creation, no sex before marriage, the whole 9 yards (well, they’re kinda weird. They’re very supportive of transgender folks but feel kinda iffy on gays but because they’re deaf they’re also very iffy on using laws to oppress them). So I always thought I was raised super religious and for a lot of defintations I was. My first book was a picture Bible. I was drilled in the Bible so hard that I can recite a lot of the old and New Testament from memory. I’ve forgotten chapter and verses because… Well who wants to remember that?
But this? Honestly when I was a teen I thought stuff like this was something atheists made up to slander Christians. It wasn’t until I met people who grew up this way in the Marines and College (I went to ASU) that I realized that that this was No Shit Real. Even now it’s like staring into a fun house mirror…
As for the counseler, a lot of these colleges treat their students as if they’re still minors, so they inform the parents of everything. I’ve met these kids, a lot of them are barely able to function on their own even in their mid 20s and I kinda think that might be the point. I really don’t like a system like that, it’s frankly cultish to me in a lot of ways.
I was raised…completely opposite of you lol. My parents were both totally secular, though my dad studied religions for fun and we discussed various religious theories a lot. My mom had no interest unless the church was putting on a fish fry or something with food.
But growing up in the Midwest, that makes me the total weirdo. Most of my friends were raised some degree of Catholic, and I’ve run into more of these extreme fundamentalists than I ever thought I would. And you’re correct, a lot of them are kept from being totally independent, because that would threaten the hold their parents usually have on them. Gotta…keep ’em from sinning, I guess?
I was raised in a religious and African background and trust me it is much worse. This discrimination is based on the fear that taking in something new that isn’t parallel to the norm will unravel your beliefs or even the foundations of your religious laws. Even conversations, books or movies with just a mention of sex are a sin, much less having a discussion about sexuality, because it might compromise their beliefs. The truth is after all these years the Catholic Church doesn’t really know where to classify things like sexuality, artificial intelligence, cloning, abortions etc. The things we claim make us human. So they banish it, until more information can be found, unlikely because we can’t use scientific parameters to describe them yet. Religion isn’t bad, and religious people aren’t automatically evil. But on the ground, belief in God is just an excuse for people with misguided intentions to mistreat and isolate others based on their abnormalities, just like the law, or social norms. I don’t know where I was going with this I just felt like saying something.
I just binge read this comic last night and I love it so much! It is totally awesome!
Woohoo! Thank you! I’m glad you’re here 😀
Fucking counsellor
Agreeeed
Okay I feel that I must say something here. As a conservative Christian that does believe that homosexuality is wrong, what this counselor did was wrong, a violation of trust, unhelpful to any involved, and inexcusable.
(I would keep typing but I must leave for work)
Yes, but the counselor disregarding confidentiality is kind of separate from the gay thing. Like, this comic is gonna be generally pretty gay, and is written by a gay author, and being gay is totally not a moral issue. It’s just how you are and who you’re attracted to.
I apologize if it felt like an attack on you or your comic. I’ll try to explain better. Yes I think homosexuality is a sin. However lots of things are sins (lying, pornography, and premarital sex to name some of the most common in today’s society) I have yet to make it through a day without sinning. What I’m trying to say is that I believe it’s wrong but that it is also none of my business, it is between that person and God. I only bring it up to say that this counselor’s beliefs (that I share) do not justify or excuse his actions.
I guess I’m just a little over sensitive. Christians are supposed to be welcoming and accepting because at the end of the day we are all sinners. Also Christians are to love the sinners and hate the sin. Yet all too often that’s not the line I see walked. Am I making any sense or am I just talking in circles?
I mean, I get where you’re coming from, but there’s legit discourse amongst theologians as to whether the Bible even mentions homosexuality, if it’s an issue of translation, or if it’s strictly an Old Testament thing. I would challenge that it’s a sin at all, even in a Christian context. At the end of the day, it seems like it would be more of a sin if I were to say, marry a dude despite having no physical or mental interest in him. To me, that’d be cruel to both of us, unlike having a loving relationship with another woman.
technogray:
It’s… good, really, that you recognize and condemn an ethical line being crossed, here, and I don’t want to diminish that. But recognize that, even without that particular misdeed, the counselor was in a position to cause considerable harm with the same attitude you possess. Telling a young lesbian that her feelings are wrong, sinful, etc, is basically placing her in an impossible situation, because it’s been demonstrated, time and again, that this isn’t something that goes away from willpower or prayer or any of the other conservative ‘solutions’. (Sexual orientation and identity DO apparently sometimes shift as we grow older, but it is not something we have any more control over than our original orientations.)
I personally believe it’s wrong but I’m not perfect. I don’t know what’s best for someone’s life. If I were the counselor, first I would let her talk it out herself. Sometimes all people really need is not a fixer but merely a sympathetic ear. Second I would advise her to find a private spot and read the Bible and pray. Earnestly pray for comfort and guidance. Then she should do whatever she feels led to do.
Yeah, but you get that you saying being gay is wrong is kind of like saying it’s wrong for someone to be Asian, right? Like, I didn’t chose to be attracted to women instead of men. It’s cool that you’re accepting of it, but if God made everyone perfectly, then this is just the way I’m made, too. There’s nothing wrong about it.
I’ll be honest here. I’m not totally sure what to think about homosexuality. I truly believe it is not how we are intended to be, and yet I do realize that it isn’t really a choice that they are making. I don’t really know what to do with this information. I’m in a weird place where I don’t want to endorse said behavior and at the same time I don’t want to condemn it ether. I have prayed about this conflict and below I’ll attempt to paraphrase the answer I got.
This isn’t about me. My input doesn’t matter. This is between them and God to work out. If they feel that God is okay it. Awesome. Still not my business. My job is to love them and encourage them to keep seeking God.
And right now, perhaps, I have been failing at that job. Again I am sorry if this has felt like some kind of an attack.
It’s cool, I know you’re not attacking me! You’ve been super chill and I appreciate it! And I’m glad you’ve prayed on your opinion. I’d encourage you to keep thinking about the LGBT folks, and expanding your ideas of us :).
Or you could read a book on organic gardening, and listen to some 60 music CD’s. Not going to change who you are. Not going to change what other people think of you. May make your day more pleasant… May produce some tasty veggies…
I never personally met Christian extremist (except maybe for the door to door Mormons and witnesses), I wonder if something like homosexuality really is still that much of a drama to them even here (North Germany).
Usually I imagine such mindsets only to exist in medieval times or maybe modern south Germany.
Unfortunately, people are still too concerned with what other people do in their own relationships, especially in the US :|. I think, especially in a country as big as the US, it’s easy to end up in a little pocket of people who think a certain way, and if you don’t leave that pocket, it’s hard to see why anyone would disagree with your viewpoint. You can easily go live in Texas or Utah or New Mexico and just disappear off the grid and never see anyone you don’t want to see, and that makes it hard to change people’s minds.
One of my partners is a bisexual guy from what he describes as the “German equivalent of the U.S. Bible belt” (I think S. Germany), and said it was decidedly homophobic there and his family would not be okay with him being queer. But here in large swaths of the U.S. (esp. southern U.S. and midwestern U.S. and rural areas in general), those mindsets are still very prevalent. I grew up in a household not /quite/ like this (just two children) but very conservative; my dad is a southern baptist pastor which is one of the more close-minded ultraconservative sects of Christianity.
I’ve got a lot of Southern Baptists in my family, which is why I even have a point of reference for this story >_>
Ah, reminds me of my freshman year at a Southern Baptist college in Tennessee. I was already out by then, but the school had a rule against “advocating sexual immorality,” which specifically included homosexuality or any notion of gay rights. I could have lost my scholarship or been kicked out for so much as speaking up for equality much less being out myself, so back in the closet I went… sort of. I may or may not have been intentionally as gay as possible while technically still pretending I wasn’t, hahaha…
I mean, I wrote an English term paper on the poetry of Sappho and how, according to her, lesbian relationships are the most egalitarian of all. (And I still got an A!) XD Thank god I could transfer out after that year because I very much doubt I would have lasted much longer without raising their ire.
Aw, baby Sten. I’m glad you made your way to USC so you could be mired in the pit of sin that is SoCal with the rest of us lol
“Because that counselor was a dick” oh look, just about every one I’ve ever dealt with. Man, do I sympathize here…
I’m fairly good at dealing with the assholes among us, but same. I’m too straight-laced to seem like I hate authority, but I hate authority.
*therapist hat* NO SOMEONE SHOULD FILE A GRIEVANCE AGAINST THAT COUNSELOR, not appropriate! She’s not a minor if she’s in college, and therefore he cannot legally tell her parents anything, not even that she’s in counseling, without her permission. -____- Unless he’s like, an academic advisor or something and not a licensed counselor? But then why would she see him about liking girls. Either way, dude needs to lose his license, that is a -serious- HIPPA violation, not okay.
The internet isn’t helping me on this, but if he doesn’t accept insurance for counseling, I’m not totally sure he would be covered by HIPAA. He’d be more of a religious counselor. Still a dick, though.
Ahhhh, yay! I like that you had her be attracted to all ladies! I’m bi and I still think it’s kind of funny that I have a couple of types when it comes to dudes, but with ladies I’m just like: “Gosh, golly, they’re all so PRETTY!” haha
I can’t be totally sure (cause I haven’t asked a lot of women what they find attractive), but it seems to me that women in general have a much broader definition of what is ‘attractive’, or, as I once read about a study on the subject, they have very specific notions of what is attractive, but those notions tend to deviate much further from the ‘physical ideal’ than do the notions of most men. It’s interesting!
Yes! I’m glad you approve lol. It actually took me a long time to nail down my sexuality because I’m like…doesn’t everyone think women are attractive? Like, almost every woman? And I still think men are attractive sometimes, but in a general way. Not in a “I want to date that” way.
I think I’ve seen similar studies, actually. I find all that stuff fascinating.
I gotta say, it’s very admirable that you put so much effort into responding to comments. From a lot of the stuff I’ve read that can really take it out of a person, especially if things get nasty in the comments section.
I too find studies on sex and attraction very interesting, it’s just too bad that they tend to focus almost exclusively on cis and straight folks. I get why that is, for sure, but sometimes those outlier populations produce some really intriguing results, yo!
Thanks! I don’t always get to them right away, and I don’t always keep track of the older ones, but I find that it helps build a saner comment section if I’m involved :). Keeps the sharks at bay lol.
We can thank the research of Alfred Kinsey at Indiana University for why we started studying sexuality in the US at all lol. Indiana! Good for something!
I think it was shit more than rules, (Insert whatever the narrator’s name is here)… I’m not Christian though, so I don’t know!
Hahaha, well the narrator is Marisa, but yes I’d agree that their rules are awful.
Is this part a flashback within a flashback
Yes! It totally is! I’m quite happy about it, because it didn’t occur to me at the time I wrote it.
Outed her to her Zealot Parents!….That’s Cold! I grew up in a large Mormon family (9 kids) in northern Utah. This is pretty accurate to what might happen there. The poor LGBT kids out in Utah have a real rough time just coming out.
I know quite a few very religious people, many of whom I’m related to…and I suspect my eventual coming out to them will be not taken well either :p.
Im glad that to know that she’ll eventually meet Marisa!
My parents never even talked to me about what it meant to be gay. Until the age of 16, I didn’t even know it was possible to like someone of the same sex. I thought I was confused I found myself crushing on female celebrities and sneaking glances at the posters outside Victoria Secret in the mall. XD
Turns out, all the guys I thought I “liked”, were all just guys I made myself like in a way to appease all my friends at a sleepovers. That caused a lot of confusion, drama, and pressure in middle school. Sigh.
My parents never kept the concept of gayness from me, but I just couldn’t wrap my brain around being gay myself lol. I’m like…everyone finds women attractive, right? Who wouldn’t! But I wasn’t connecting the idea that finding men attractive was a genuine aspect of being straight. Who knew?
Hey I just binge read this in one go and gotta say it’s really great!! Looking forward to following it in the future.
Awesome! Thank you! I love hearing that people get all the way through so easily lol. Luckily for you, the future is tomorrow for new pages 😀
This song is so much better and so much gayer when Joan Jett sings it <3
It’s not gay. It’s her not changing the lyrics. 😉
yaaay! i just got in with the ” read whole comic up till’ now” pack lol
I hope the guys kiss. (I just saw the art you get to see when you vote for How to be a Werewolf.)
From the New York Times that belongs right here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/opinion/gay-and-in-love-at-an-evangelical-college.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur